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I am a single woman attracted to a married man. We work for the same company. I can see he is lonely and I want to be his friend. He makes eye contact with me but he is uncomfortable about talking to me. Should I meet him where I know he has lunch? (Question submitted online)
You are a relationship piranha. Find ways to address your own loneliness that are not at the expense of a man, his wife and children. The loneliness you perceive within this person is a projection of your very selfish motives. Even if he is lonely, his emotional well-being is absolutely none of your business. You are employed to do your job, not meet the emotional needs of strangers, and not wreck marriages.
Stay away from this man who is (thankfully) uncomfortable with your deceitful advances. Even if you did run into him for lunch, and even if you did alleviate his apparent loneliness, and even if you did start an on-going relationship with him, it would all be based on lies and deception. Since you have already established that you are a dishonest woman I question whether this would be important to you.
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When I was a boy I’d endlessly practice the fluent delivery of my name but it seldom flowed easily from my lips. As if it was new news to me, adults pointed out my stutter. Perhaps they thought I was beginning, at that precise moment, for the first time in my life to spit from the mouth, twist at the neck, jig my head back and forth trying to expel some inane statement log-jammed between my gut and my throat.
Idiots – always adults, children were surprisingly patient, – would make me repeat sentences as if a repeat performance of the humiliating uncoordinated gesticulations, my arms and legs flying in all directions, would make for an easier delivery the second time. That I’d just spent every ounce of energy trying to cough it up was lost on them. That I was already thoroughly humiliated was something to which they were blind.
“Practice, practice,” they’d say as if stutterers simply didn’t speak enough. “Think before you speak. Now – try that again,” they would declare slowly and loudly as if I was stupid and deaf. These thoughtless people were ignorant of just how much stutterers do think. Too much – which is central to the issue!
If I’d known at twelve or thirteen that the day would come when I’d make a career of public speaking I might have strolled off a high-rise building.
Now it is quite easy to hide. I am very comfortable with crowds.
It’s asking driving directions or ordering food at a drive through where it gets tricky. Sitting in a cozy circle waiting for my turn to introduce myself sends my blood-pressure through the roof. The ticket attendant on the London underground can render me dumb after I’ve just spent days addressing a room full of graduate level adults about Family Systems Theory. I know. It sounds ridiculous.
I was almost immobilized the first time I saw Thulani put himself “on duty” in the event he needed to be my mouthpiece. He did it. No one asked him or appointed him. He just did it.
If the inside of a house (outside, too, I suppose) is a metaphor of the lives of the people who live in it – which is something I once read somewhere – gosh, are we in trouble. Our house is a mess.
I consistently clean it room by room, thinking often of the legend that the Golden Gate Bridge that says there’s some guy constantly painting it. I feel for him. While I am sure the view is wonderful I must believe that the poor guy whose doing it daily from one end to the other must find the wind and the weather quite a challenge.
Our house is the same, but instead of painting from end to end and back again, I am the guy constantly cleaning, – and, it’s hard to tell.
Where I cleaned and swept and dusted and vacuumed and sponged and sterilized yesterday there are scooters and bicycles (boys), mail in piles (me), books (boys and me), newspapers (me), magazines (me), and socks (boys and Max, the Chihuahua).
Turn my back and the boys and Max are at it again – enjoying life as boys (and a dog) while I find being a cleaning lady quite an exhausting challenge.
There is a point of no return, I’ve noticed, or at least a point of the chaos where I feel compelled to let it all go for a while and I throw up my hands and join in the fun of trashing the place.
But when I clean I like to think I’m just like the guy painting the Bridge, which I can only imagine must be a slow and methodical task.
I do it room by room, starting at one end, the front, in the event that I soon lose interest – then, at least, the front room is somewhat in order. I push it (trash, magazines, books, socks, clothes) all back from the living room, through the piano room, then into the TV room until everything lands up in the kitchen.
Once it hits the kitchen I separate out what’s Max’s – he’s has his own set of toys with which he ruins the house – what’s Nate’s, what’s Thulani’s, and what can be recycled, dumped, restacked on bookshelves, placed in drawers, hung on a hanger, or filed in the “important documents” file I keep losing.
We moved into “122” (creatively named for its street number and which has had very few updates since it was built in 1886) when Thulani was about two – and I have been getting it in order ever since. Nate joined us in 2002. Max, in 2009. The house- attachment, at least for the boys and Max, is strong. When I talk of selling Thulani reminds me that Rhino, the husky that was on the run for nine months and returned to die within a few weeks after we reconnected, is buried in an Air France first class cabin blanket just outside of the kitchen door. Nate reminds me of where the fat goldfish is buried and Thulani ends the litany with his inability to think of living in a house without the large tree in the front yard where he has his brother (and Max) have “peed like boys” (and a dog) for the past several years.
So. I’ll go on painting and, before you send me letters about giving the boys chores and responsibilities and assigning daily tasks and getting on top of it before it gets on top of me let me advise that you are barking up the wrong tree (sorry, Max for the dog metaphor) because we do have all that in place and it does work here and there and off and on.
I know, I know. Consistency is the name of the game for parenting and let me tell you, the ONLY thing that is consistent here is the need to keep going room by room with or without the boys (and Max) to get this little bridge painted one stretch at a time so the world can see just how organized and decent our lives are here at our beloved “122.”
Being a white South African reared under Apartheid is no simple matter. It permeated everything for me. While I do not pretend to have been a political activist, I was always cognizant that my privileges, simply a result of being born white, were unmerited, and most unfair especially when enjoyed at the expense of others who were not. I think this unsettling truth (for I took advantage of my station in life) was somewhat of a companion to me from the age of about six or seven.
I am regularly aware that:- I was discouraged from playing soccer in the “front” yard (in view of the neighbors) with the servant’s children. While this may seem insignificant in the light of other much more severe problems rising from racism, it was huge for me as a child on several fronts. I loved the children and I loved soccer even more. They were excellent soccer players.
- I did attend a segregated school as did almost all white South Africans while there did exist some church schools that were integrated even under Apartheid. I vividly recall my school principal scolding the entire student body (over a thousand white boys) because a domestic worker (a black adult man) was seen walking in the neighborhood wearing a school blazer.
- Although, by no means wealthy, I was waited on hand and foot by a full-time servant.
- In the late 80s I was warned not to pray publicly for Prisoner “Nelson” Mandela from my church pulpit.
- A member of my family did balk at my request that I bring black children to his home-swimming pool to swim.
- Even as late as 1987 I was embarrassed that a young black boy whom I’d “helped” in his squatter camp had shown up at my door unannounced. I recall wondering what the neighbors would think seeing a child arriving at the home for a social visit and not to work in the yard.
While I am aware that these are piddly problems in the light of what millions faced under the Apartheid regime, I am also aware that these factors in my immediate environment “shaped” me into believing perverse things (like in my own superiority and in “their” inferiority) about persons of other race groups. More significantly, I am frequently reminded that my children and I could not have shared life as we now do if we were still living in the era of Apartheid.
We live very close to our school and church, so close we can hear the school bell from our kitchen and the church bells in my bedroom.
Sometimes we walk to both and we don’t see the car for days.
I like it. I like not having to get in and out of the car. I like not having to negotiate traffic, something as synonymous with life in the USA as Disney, Fast Food, and the Fourth of July.
That’s the upside.
We are a 10-hour-drive to the nearest coast – and, most of the east coast beaches are not worth the drive. The west coast, which has many wonderful beaches comparable to where I was reared, takes three full days of driving to reach.
Being landlocked is one thing but another is the weather. Indiana weather is erratic, neurotic, and downright psychotic.
Days ago I could’ve (but I didn’t) ice-skated across the street. Now, as I write, there’s a small lake in the street next to the sidewalk from last night’s rain. The weather is so brutal and extreme (it is as hot as blazes in the summers) that when we do drive anywhere (there are no grocery stores in walking distance) the streets are often full of potholes making some of America’s finest suburban streets resemble stretches of road you’d find in a rural stretch of South Africa’s Wild Coast. So, I am exaggerating but really not too much. Washington Boulevard is a challenge to drive right now, you have got to dodge potholes and loose pavement or, unless you drive a tank, you stand to severely damage your suspension.
But I do love living here. My neighbors are some of my best friends. My children are free and safe in the neighborhood and everyone knows everyone’s children. Even as I write Joseph (born a week or so before Thulani) from down the street has wondered into the house and it is quite likely he will eat with us, stay the night, and then wander down back down the street to his home sometime in the morning. His mom and I will talk sometime between now and nightfall unless he of course chooses to wonder off home and be gone just as quickly as he showed up.
Potholes and crazy weather won’t send us running, although we will drive to church in the morning – even though it is really close. I’m not sure I want to brave the elements which could be a snow-storm, an ice storm, the threat of a tornado – or a little or a lot of each. What else could you expect during March in Indiana?
If you wait until you are ready to adopt a child you never will because you will never be ready. The baby, and only the baby, will make you ready. Reading the right books will be helpful, but “ready” magically comes upon you when a real baby is sleeping in your arms or crying in the middle of the night. If you are not ready to change diapers – and I always am amused at the big deal about this non-issue – being unprepared will last only as long as a clean diaper. Of course you can go baby-stuff-shopping, get a room painted, stencil yellow ducks on the wall – if you know long enough in advance your child is coming. But painting a bedroom with ducks and rainbows and a pot of gold, and getting a truck load of stuff from your local one-stop baby emporium will only fill your home with a lot of weird and wonderful, and mostly unnecessary, equipment.
Children interrupt everything. It is the child who is really ready to teach you, whether you are or not. Once he arrives he will become the hub of all your scheduling. You will be fine with this because the child is not an interruption to your life but rather, from this point on, central to it.
The baby will make you ready and you can’t really prepare for the baby until he is breathing in the crib right next to your bed.
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27 Comments
Mark Wilson
Wow. I agree she should stay clear of married men. But was it necessary to be so rough and rude with her? I doubt she will be able to see in what way she has “already established that she is a dishonest woman”. But your underlying principle is correct, “stay away!” and do not consider yourself responsible for his emotional needs. Agreed. But the tone… was it needed?
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28 May 2006 08:05 pm
stella moreno
“Married” Is the same as “Taken,… not Available,…committed to someone else,…off limits. do you understand this concept.
If you really want to help people? go into nursing or some other field where your concern would be better appreciated or needed. This gent has a wife that may or may not attend to his needs.
It really is no conern of yours, or it may i say it should not be.
05 Aug 2006 08:08 pm
arshia
I am married and the man I am attracted to is married too. We have this unspoken attraction. I have expressed my feelings to him, he has not. But his none verbal communication and the way he looks at me tells me he is interested. what do i do. His wife and I are best friends. My husband and him are good friends too. my husband is aware of the attraction and my husband is attracted to this married man’s husband. What do the 4 of us do? Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22 Nov 2006 09:11 pm
Candace
In 2010 must we really got back to the basic's? where did we as a people start to for get about love, respect, family and MARRIAGE! when did the purity of ones soul darken so easily to think that because one feels the deep desire of temptation it is alright to respond to it? its not alright, if anything it should be considered as a sign of some sort to get your stuff together cause it is possible to feel those desires. after all thats how you ended up in a marriage. causing hurt to the others is just not right. clean you own mess before allowing yourself to make a mess in someone else's family and world. so do what is right and fight that temptation, there are just some things we as a people should not do regardless of the desire that hounds you.
26 Feb 2010 03:02 pm
Ela
To Arshia: I had the same problem: I had a friend, her husband looked at me as he was attracted to me (I did not feel comfortable at all), I felt attracted to him, besides, my friend was making funny comments about my husband, which
Were making me more attracted to her husband and not mine. So eventually, I interrupted this “family” friendship, because the relationships in both families were suffering, and my friend’s husband approached my H.during tennis game, asking him to talk to me to be more positive in conversations with his wife. I stopped calling, told my husband – no more tennis games with him or at least just tennis and nothing else.
Funny, we both have girls the same age, which go to the same kindergarten, when we meet each other in KG, we just say hello and nothing else.
01 Dec 2006 10:12 pm
Arshia
Ela, Thank you for your reply. What I understood of you telling me, to just let it go and not persue a relationship. I have not seen my friends husband for a couple of weeks. His wife and their kids have been with me and my husband for dinners, movies and just hanging out. However; my friends husband has not come around and seems not wanting to see me, my husband or my kids. I am sensing he is afraid of what might happen. I also see, that he is very unhappy with his marriage. I feel this circle of relationship with the 4 of us, is so complicated. I am at a loss. I guess what I need is advice as to what I should do. I am grateful that my husband and I are so open and honest about the situation. I have no worries of deception, lies or hurting anyone. I will be looking for your reply
17 Dec 2006 11:12 am
Kim
Lady, what the heck is wrong with you? He is MARRIED…there are too many SINGLE men out there for you to hit on. You are a married woman’s WORST NIGHTMARE. He will never leave his wife for you and you are just asking for trouble. Why would you even stoop that low? If he cheats on his wife, he would cheat on you as well. Protect your dignity, you will be a much happier person. You don’t want a man that cheats, or do you? The pain is NOT WORTH IT.
15 Nov 2007 09:11 am
Jacquie
Okay, I’m the wife of a husband who’s staff member hit on him–Yes, he was lonely because he’s been firghting depression for 20 years.
Any woman who hits on a married man is the lowest of the low. And, if that woman’s married she’s even lower than that. This woman has totally destroyed any trust in my marriage, what she did was mean, disgusting, selfish and totally destructive. I can’t believe she’d do that to me–I can’t tell you how much it hurt. I even sat down with her for coffee and asked her and it was disgusting how she lied and then turned the tables on me to make me look like the one who was emotionally unstable. Well honey, let me tell you, I sure wouldn’t put myself in the same disgusting position that you did.
There is no greater way to hurt a wife than to sleep with her husband. There is no greater way to destroy a family than to do that, maybe even destroy your own as well. I’m doing all I can not to go to her husband with what I know.
13 Dec 2007 02:12 pm
Robert
You must leave him alone becaue a relationship built upon deceit will not last.
26 Dec 2007 11:12 pm
Sly
I would like to tell something about this topic.. I’m single. My ex cheated on me months ago, I didn’t know about that since I found out, I was destroyed, of course. for a long time nobody attract me at all, I just do not had a need for a man, for an relationship, until I met a guy. He smiled to me, looked at me on such nice way, he was really nice, but we never me officialy. I was really interested in him, and I asked some people that should know him… they told me he is married. i was so sad, I didn’t know that, and I couldn’t explain myself his way of behaviour, i tought that’s it! – new man in my life, new light in my life, new joy and happiness, maybe new relationship. Still, today, he mets me on the street or in cafe and he looks at me all the time, he smiles to me… this is so obviously strong chemistry between me and him, I just cannot stop think about him, I was really attracted to him, and this was NOT my fault!… In our city is really hard to find normal, good, goodloking and decent man. It is a boig competition between so many beautifull womenm trust me. So, I’m asking, do I, as an normal, pretty, attractive and well positioned woman have riht to take this boy to me? I really do not care that he is married. Why he looks at me that way? Why he smiles to me everytime he meets me. He cannot stop to looks at me, I feel let say happy and so good when I meet him on the street. But I am also wise and I know that I could or should not do anything what is against his position, against his marriage, I am aware of it. But I just felt in love, because he do that to me. I do not catch him, he cathes me. So, I would like to hear an answer from married woman or married man. What is this, this kind of game??
07 Jun 2008 04:06 pm
rita
good point sly. i have never done anything with a married man, but i have weathered the power of male sexuality and desire turned my way. so married ladies…you married your man. you must know what he is capable of. have a little pity for the poor woman your husband decides to catch for a little fun on the side. clearly you haven’t seen La Femme Défendue, or a whole host of french movies that deal with the power of male desire. quit blaming women and deal honestly with your husband’s sexuality.
06 Jul 2008 02:07 pm
Eli
Im agree with sly and rita, but i need to say something more, all that the others speak, is about properties, is like to have a owner when you get married, its that correct? for whom?, we are a thing? so if a person is an adult married or not married you are free to chose wherever you want!.. anyway the kind of compromise is only for the person that is married..
30 Aug 2008 12:08 pm
mimi tu
Guys,
ive been married for 12 years. i recently met thisdoctor . im crazy about him. hes married.i think about him all the time. i fantasize about holding him close and hugging him. he does not know about this.
the way he looks at me… i just melt away.
he likes to hold my hand and this drives me crazy. i lust for him ….im i going mad ?
17 Sep 2008 11:09 pm
please use your heart
people……………………….. it is wrong not only to mess with some one who is married………. The Bible said that “lust” is a sin too….. you have gave in to your flesh. WRONG !!! He is NOT your man.
I would advise anyone to find their first love which SHOULD be Jesus and He will show you the rest of what to do.
Prayers 4 all
02 Oct 2008 01:10 pm
Hlotho Nombeko
what to do if you stay far away from your husband and when the time goes on you phone him and he can answer the phone but as the time goes if you phone him he will never pick it up the phone. what does this symbolyses to a married woman who has husband like this.
07 Nov 2008 02:11 am
FRUSTRATED!!
Ok, I am a smart, sophisticated, intelligent woman and I know these things to be true. I know all about attraction and the chemistry behind it. I know that we can quiet our inner lust and that through the Lord God almighty we can tame the snake of desire but when your on ground Zero and your in the trenches fighting the most powerful opponent, Satan, who is constantly whispering “Just give in” it is more than hard to say “No!” All of this being said…I have a friend of around 11 years we have grown up together and gotten closer over the years. She has always been there and I love her very much
For about 7 years she has been dating someone who she loves very much. I myself have been married for 5 and it’s been tough but we love one. Long story short about 2 years ago this friend and I had a falling out because of a attraction issue and what started as a innocent comment between her man and myself. We did not speak for a year and just got back to good about 10 months ago. Now, everything is GREAT however there is still an attraction issue. For both he and myself. We went out this past weekend and these unspoken desires became words spoke. I feel awful! Nothing happened but how in the world do I handle this. I cannot tell her as this will jeopardize our friendship if not end it, not to mention hurt my husband whom I love VERY much. However I know that I cannot be around him anymore at least alone and now that we have spoken and both know the attraction is mutual something more is bound to happen. How do I avoid him when we are so close? We literally spend a day if not more a week together. HELP!!
08 Dec 2008 11:12 am
Rod E. Smith, MSMFT
Thanks for your letter. I have just gotten home and will handle this when I have more time.
Rod
08 Dec 2008 04:12 pm
Carlisle Collins
Hlotho Nombeko: You’re probably reading something into it that’s just not there! From a personal point of view, I don’t believe in staying ‘far away’ from my family. It’s just not good for relationships, especially committed relationships. Both partners are prone to misinterpret the action of the other. For instance, if the ‘phone calls are too ‘frequent’ (whatever that means) and/or not answered, the caller is prone to suspicion and the ‘callee’ might think he/she is being monitored. This situation might even give rise to mind games. It’s been known to happen, you know! Interesting at first (maybe!) but potentially destructve. Also, the frequency might truly become bothersome when there’s really nothing worthwhile to say and you’ve already had long sessions of ‘love talk’ twenty times yesterday for crying out loud! Give your larynx a rest (and your dialling finger too) or fuel a co-dependancy type relationship; or worse – No relationshi at all. Here’s some non-professional advise: MATURITY, SELF CONFIDENCE and FAITH in God! Give it a try!
11 Dec 2008 09:12 am
Carlisle Collins
I AM ATTRACTED TO A MARRIED MAN…etc. An old post about a current issue: – Jumping To Hasty Conclusions!
Whoa, people! “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”. For one scary moment I thought I was in some Iranian or Saudi site with every narrow-minded, self righteous hypocrite revved up for some serious weekend stone pelting! Give the woman a break, folks! All she wanted to do was strike up a conversation with someone interesting who she works with – not necessarily start a romantic liaison. Would it have made any difference if she found him boring yet wanted to find out exactly what feature about her made him ‘uncomfortable’?
Wanting to be a friend doesn’t necessarily amount to the desire to become a lover! Most man-man or man-woman friendships do begin between strangers (for the most part), sometimes between lonely strangers, sometimes married and lonely strangers who may be lonely intellectually or spiritually, or emotionally, or desirous of belonging to a support group, or just looking for company to help make the work day go by easier. Would this amount to ‘carrying on’ an illicit association unbeknownst to one’s spouse? There’s certainly a possibility that it could. But statistically, it’s improbable. (“But why take that chance, eh? Let’s just outlaw opposite sex socializing between non-relatives, ostracize them just like it says in Islamic Law! Furthermore, posing an impertinent, sinful question in a public forum is tantamount to admitting evil intentions, which is tantamount to committing the sinful Act itself!… Oh! The slut! How dare she even consider the first step that could ruin a marriage and schedule a double beheading!!).
We humans are gregarious by nature; social creatures! It is highly abnormal for anyone to isolate themselves especially from people at work. Most employers dsapprove of that behavior and view it as one’s inability/reluctance to get along with others. The work force is team effort, you know! Sort of like an extended family without who you probably wouldn’t have the ability to support yours!
Now, by nature, we’re attracted to interesting people (or people who interest us). If I encountered someone I found interesting but who was ‘uncomfortable’ in my company, I’d be curious to know why. Perhaps I was putting out the wrong signal, or she (he, for that matter) had a ‘thing’ against people with a lisp (i.e., Me), perhaps they have bad breath (or I do!) or Tourette Syndrome and were being deliberately guarded …
Short of muscling her into a direct confrontation, would it be considered proper etiquette to, yes, share the table with her during our lunch break? In public! Would this label me a ‘relationship piranha’, fair game for jealous husbands? (P.S. I’d like to use that term elsewhere, Rod
It has that certain bite to it!). Would I be perceived as endeavoring to accomplish my ‘very selfish motives’ subconsciously (surreptitiously?), with Freudian overtones, disguised as an innocent Samaritan act of reaching out to a co-worker; Perhaps even wanting to know what she found ‘uncomfortable’ about my presence.
Q: Is there any merit to the determination of another’s motives and character when information relied upon is sketchy, limited, and prone to dffering (situation-specific) variants.
11 Dec 2008 02:12 pm
L
I wanted to drop a quick line about how funny life is. You can judge someone all you like and say how you would never do something and then the next day you will be in that situation.
Like many of you, I always thought that any person who caused a married person to be unfaithful was total trash. I said this for years and turned down married men multiple times.
Recently I have begun having a STRONG attraction for one of my husband’s friends. I cannot get him out of my mind no matter how hard I try. It is not that I want to be with him. I do not. I just have the animal urge to do physcial things with him. My husband also finds his wife very attractive. However, we know that these people are not swingers. My husband wouldn’t mind if I did things with his friend. The limitation is that this couple doesn’t follow our line of thinking.
I have elected to avoid this couple at all costs. I hope that these sexual thoughts will be out of my head at some point. . Agagin, let me point out that I love my husband and have no intention of leaving him…it is all about. wild sexual chemistry.
Bottom line: Don’t judge. Try to be understanding. Understand that there are two sides to every story. You may be in the opposite situation some days so use a little compassion when dealing with others.
19 Dec 2008 11:12 pm
Carlisle Collins
Hi L: I respect your honesty but the way things are, have been, likely to be, etc. “social acceptance” of the fulfillment of such desires as your is far from likely. In fact, quite a few jurisdictions regard adultery as a crime attracting penal sanctions (no pun!). I daresay, at some point in life, it is everyman’s fantasy to pleasure/be pleasured by more than one. But at best, these desires remain unfulfilled fantasies for one reason or another. And if they do manifest, very few would allow the same discretion (indiscretion?) to his wife because “what’s good for the gander may be good for the goose but I’ll be damned if she gets goosed by some low life drake; she might get to like it, and I’d be history” (or her story, depending on your gender preference!). Hypocritical? (You bet! But I’ll never admit it!!) You see, Polyamory is a covert characteristic exclusive to Man (despite the truth – because generally, in this area, we men can’t handle the truth!). But to augment this pseudo conservative standpoint that circumscribes the perimeter of what is generally considered “socially acceptable behavior”, one has only to withdraw oneself from the social dynamics momentarily and allow an objective, gestalten understanding of interpersonal relationships and the critical role that intimacy plays in establishing and defining social structure. One recognizes change, hurried, accelerated change ushering in rapid technological advancement and, along with it, a steady but decisive dilution in interpersonal bonding that has long since destabilized the fundamental societal unit – the family. I believe the critical reason for this is casual (or lack of) conformance to designated roles by individual members and laxity in setting an example and enforcing expectations for fear of being labeled ‘conservative’ or ‘disciplinarian’, or even ‘asshole’! I believe relationships become very confusing when roles lack solidity and shift back and forth. For instance, no matter how vociferously I may claim to love my wife and never leave her, just how truly committed am I when my desires, no matter how transitory, are offered to another? Is this form of ‘unselfishness’ a valid ‘test of love’ or a nutrient for the seed of corruption? During these difficult times when many are struggling to pick up the fragments and work at restoring family integrity and cohesiveness, shelving one’s ‘ultraliberal’, ‘progressive’ carnal desires would be a good sacrifice for the greater cause. Taboos are ALWAYS more fun to partake in; it is meant to be so. But the price that everyone eventually pays for the pleasures of the few is unfairly disproportionate. Peace!
24 Dec 2008 02:12 pm
seldom
wow, I Agree it’s not good to judge people and their feelings too quickly. I too myself used to think that I would NEVER think to cheat on my spouse. 2yrs 1/2 ago I was introduced to my husbands friend and wife, I was very attracted, even though I mentioned it to my husband I never said anything else. I noticed he’s friend was very polite, and that would make him irresistable. I finally got him out of my mind and he called me a few months ago and we began to talk, I have told him I can’t do anything. He’s been open enough to say he just wants to be with me once and that’s it. I would love to be able to be with him once, I can imagine how interse it could be. Wow it blows me away. But something inside of me does not allow me to do such thing. Its a though call when your in this situation!!! you want something so BADD but you know you should not have it!! even though your happy it’s once once, you know that it’s wrong…
16 Sep 2009 05:09 pm
seldom
speaking of the devil, he just called
16 Sep 2009 05:09 pm
lulu
I can totally understand what she’s going through ! it’s important to understand.. I am attracted to a married guy right now, he started flirting with me way back when we met at my work place( he is a client) and he is extremely fit with a hot hot body . I am an attractive young girl and this guy has just had a baby as well ! And I understand why he finds me attractive but I don’t understand why he is flirting in a way that wants me to suggest something which I am not going to since he is married, I like the flirting and his comliments and if I be honest I have thought about sleeping with him because I can’t get his hot body out of my mind, but I have to say I tired to put myself in his wife’s position but I didn’t feel anything, mainly because to me this kind of guy is probably cheating on her already or will do with someone else if not me, so I won’t make a difference in how his personality is. it doesn’t depend on the women but the husband. I know it might sound like I am making excuses but no, it might make a difference to my life to sleep with a married guy but not to them! a cheater will always cheat, I’m sure there will be another attractive younger girl to sleep with him.. And if I only want to get under him would that make difference for both of us ?
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Anyways, overall I don’t believe in marriage so it might be a bit because of that, I think if you feel u wanna sleep with someone else it means that love was bull .. either u do it or no..
So now I want to find a way that he will finally say it and get it over with so I could get it out of my system and move on.. I know these are just my evil thoughts in my head and I probably wont do anything but anyways..
16 Feb 2010 08:02 pm
petal
i read all the posts above and want to now share my own situation. I was married once but got divorced as my ex husband was a control freak. Later I fell in love with a single guy and our relationship lasted for 3 years. He broke up with me citing that he is attracted to other women. I was very depressed and tried gymming etc to come out of depression. Post 6 months of gymming I started looking quite attractive and many single and married men started hitting on me. I was so disgusted with married men hitting on me. Since I had known how it feels when someone cheats somebody I vowed I will never break a relationship. I was also not attracted to dozens of men who were swarming around me. Then I went to a arty and met this very interesting intense guy and started chatting. Since he was also showing interest in me, I felt great. After an hour of chatting I came to know he was married . I was disheartened but we exchanged email ids and he pinged me next day. I could not control myself and replied. He told me he went through an arrange marriage route (he is Indian) and he was just 23 when he was forced to marry. I was very attracted to him (being celibate for 9 months, this was the fist guy who turned me on) and found he too was. but then we both kind of agreed that there is no future of this relationship and he wil never divorce his wife (even though she doesn’t care too much for him) and we have decided to keep it at emotional level-as friends……………but it is very difficult and I hate this system.
01 Mar 2011 07:03 am
Shantilly Lace
He is married; he is white: he is adorable; and I want him in my life. Because we work for the same organization it will probably never happen. I don’t feel good enough about myself with any man—I’m too fat, etc. but he might not care about that. Oh well, hopefully this flame will die soon so that I can get him off of my mind.
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05 Apr 2011 05:04 pm
lc
I’m 43 years old and divorced with a child. I’ve been attracted to this man for over a year. We both work in the same place. I speak to him by saying “hi” or “good morning.” I don’t chase him I just look at him and walk on. Sometimes I catch him looking in my direction and he smiles at me. Why am I always attracted to the wrong kind of men especially married ones? Since my divorce I haven’t had much luck with men. I don’t go out I just stay home. Maybe someday I’ll find someone. Right now I’m just letting time takes its course.
23 Jun 2011 04:06 pm
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